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	<title>Comments on: Rudd and Hu Chat, Downer Whinges (Updated (lots))</title>
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	<description>a linguist without a language</description>
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		<title>By: Annihilation - and not just Howard&#8217;s &#171; matjjin-nehen</title>
		<link>http://www.matjjin-nehen.com/2007/09/07/rudd-and-hu-chat-downer-whinges/comment-page-1/#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>Annihilation - and not just Howard&#8217;s &#171; matjjin-nehen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &lt;update&gt; News of Rudd&#8217;s win has already filtered into the podean linguabloggosphere, with Language Log&#8217;s Bill Poser pointing out that at long last, we have a non-monolingual Prime Minister, as Rudd speaks Mandarin quite fluently. Of course I wrote about this back here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &lt;update&gt; News of Rudd&#8217;s win has already filtered into the podean linguabloggosphere, with Language Log&#8217;s Bill Poser pointing out that at long last, we have a non-monolingual Prime Minister, as Rudd speaks Mandarin quite fluently. Of course I wrote about this back here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ella W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ella W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Downer “did” his in two months while Rudd “did” his in two years? I don’t think that says anything about you and him or the two languages, Mr Downer, but I do think it speaks volumes about your attitude towards multilingualism.&#039;

Good point! However, I also think it DOES in fact say something about the two languages. Chinese is a much more difficult language to learn than French, in part because of the character and tonal systems.

See http://www.nvtc.gov/lotw/months/november/learningExpectations.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Downer “did” his in two months while Rudd “did” his in two years? I don’t think that says anything about you and him or the two languages, Mr Downer, but I do think it speaks volumes about your attitude towards multilingualism.&#8217;</p>
<p>Good point! However, I also think it DOES in fact say something about the two languages. Chinese is a much more difficult language to learn than French, in part because of the character and tonal systems.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.nvtc.gov/lotw/months/november/learningExpectations.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nvtc.gov/lotw/months/november/learningExpectations.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: UN backs Indigenous Rights, Brough whinges &#171; matjjin-nehen</title>
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		<dc:creator>UN backs Indigenous Rights, Brough whinges &#171; matjjin-nehen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been a lot of whining in the government over the last week. First we had Downer having a hissy fit because Rudd chose to greet Hu Jintao in his native language, then we had Howard crying because no [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been a lot of whining in the government over the last week. First we had Downer having a hissy fit because Rudd chose to greet Hu Jintao in his native language, then we had Howard crying because no [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nawagadj</title>
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		<dc:creator>nawagadj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor little Alexander!

&quot;Kevvy is a real little show-off smarty pants. Really, how sad and pathetic does someone have to be to hog the attention like that, just because he can speak another language? So what! It&#039;s not as though I brag about my French.  Imagine, if I went around demonstrating that I can speak French.  It just doesn&#039;t happen.  Who cares that I can speak French fluently?  And it only took me two months!  I&#039;ve even used it in my offical capacity as Foreign Minister, but I don&#039;t go around telling everyone about it.  That would be too much.  Look at Kevvy - so self-important and such a show-off. I wouldn&#039;t stoop to mentioned how I can speak French fluently and learnt in it in only 2 months.....no, never, that would be sooo crass.....Kevvie took 2 years you know (nudge, nudge, wink ,wink)!!  The audacity to play it up to the cameras like that....you&#039;d think he could speak French....I can, and I don&#039;t go around boring people about how I learnt to speak it fluently in just 2 months.  Let&#039;s face it, hundreds of millions of Chinese people speak Mandarin so it can&#039;t be too hard really, can it?  Besedes, no one can understand a word of it, so what&#039;s the point.   French on the other hand,  that&#039;s really tough to learn.  I don&#039;t know if you knew this, not many do, but I can speak French, fluently!  I can give a demo if you like...maybe a poetry recital tonight at my hotel.  I mean ,we&#039;re all sick of Kevvie&#039;s self-promotional Mandarin.  I can read Proust in the original for you... I speak French you know....real proper French......Did you know that??  I don&#039;t like to talk about it, but if you&#039;re interested.....&quot; - Dolly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor little Alexander!</p>
<p>&#8220;Kevvy is a real little show-off smarty pants. Really, how sad and pathetic does someone have to be to hog the attention like that, just because he can speak another language? So what! It&#8217;s not as though I brag about my French.  Imagine, if I went around demonstrating that I can speak French.  It just doesn&#8217;t happen.  Who cares that I can speak French fluently?  And it only took me two months!  I&#8217;ve even used it in my offical capacity as Foreign Minister, but I don&#8217;t go around telling everyone about it.  That would be too much.  Look at Kevvy &#8211; so self-important and such a show-off. I wouldn&#8217;t stoop to mentioned how I can speak French fluently and learnt in it in only 2 months&#8230;..no, never, that would be sooo crass&#8230;..Kevvie took 2 years you know (nudge, nudge, wink ,wink)!!  The audacity to play it up to the cameras like that&#8230;.you&#8217;d think he could speak French&#8230;.I can, and I don&#8217;t go around boring people about how I learnt to speak it fluently in just 2 months.  Let&#8217;s face it, hundreds of millions of Chinese people speak Mandarin so it can&#8217;t be too hard really, can it?  Besedes, no one can understand a word of it, so what&#8217;s the point.   French on the other hand,  that&#8217;s really tough to learn.  I don&#8217;t know if you knew this, not many do, but I can speak French, fluently!  I can give a demo if you like&#8230;maybe a poetry recital tonight at my hotel.  I mean ,we&#8217;re all sick of Kevvie&#8217;s self-promotional Mandarin.  I can read Proust in the original for you&#8230; I speak French you know&#8230;.real proper French&#8230;&#8230;Did you know that??  I don&#8217;t like to talk about it, but if you&#8217;re interested&#8230;..&#8221; &#8211; Dolly</p>
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